|Glenn Beck Show
December 6, 2006
BECK: I don`t know if you`ve noticed, but every time you turn on the TV just
to zone out, it seems like you`re just seeing shows that revolve around America
getting vaporized. From "Jericho," "Heroes," to, well, this show, and then
there`s another program that takes a smart look at terrorism and the enemies
among us. It is the Emmy-nominated "Sleeper Cell: American Terror." This is the
second season that`s about to kick off on Showtime.
Actor Michael Ealy plays a Muslim man who goes undercover for the FBI and embeds
himself in a Los Angeles terror cell. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MICHAEL EALY, ACTOR: I want you to repeat after me. I pledge my absolute fealty
for a life of struggle, a life of jihad, and against all enemies of God.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... to a life of struggle, a life of jihad, and against all
enemies of God.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECK: You know, Michael Ealy now joins us along with his co-star, Oded Fehr, who
plays a former terrorist cell leader detained by the Americans.
Guys, first of all, thank you for actually presenting the enemy as extremist
Islam. But I have to tell you: I don`t know if you`re being politically correct
or actual and ahead of the curve, because you don`t have to look like an Arab
Muslim. Is that what you`re going for, or was this political correctness that
that scene, nobody was an Arab?
EALY: You know, for me, I think one of the interesting things was, right after
we finished filming the first season, I saw a report in the paper about this
Belgian woman who was a suicide bomber herself. And so, you know, to me, you
know, the idea that the show is being politically correct I think is somewhat
I think, essentially, the show is more realistic because, at the end of the day,
Islam, it does not -- it transcends race, it transcends cultures. It`s not just
about only people of Arab descent can be, you know, Muslims.
BECK: Go ahead.
ODED FEHR, ACTOR: Well, I just think that we should fear terrorists as much as
possible, meaning we should expect the unexpected from them. And I think, you
know, that`s exactly what they would try to do, is recruit people who would
never -- we would never imagine would be terrorists.
EALY: And actually, one more thing, Glenn. The goal of an extremist terrorist
cell is to blend in. And one way in which you can do that is to diversify your
clientele, so to speak. And I think that`s one of the things that the shows
BECK: No, I have to tell you, you know, I haven`t watched the show, but I`ve
heard a lot about it, and I do have to hand it to you, because this is the
future. I mean, they`re not stupid.
And you`re right: Extremist Islam goes way beyond race. It is an ideology. And
this is the future. Right now, it`s generally Arab-looking men, but it`s
I just had to ask because, if I see another episode of "24" where it`s a
Hungarian Presbyterian that`s strapping on a suicide belt, I think I`m going to
blow my head off, you know?
So, Oded, you play a guy who is captured by the United States...
BECK: ... and some pretty brutal torture scenes in it.
BECK: How much of this -- first of all, I`m all for Jack Bauer shooting people
in the kneecaps if that`s what it`s going to take to save us. How much of this
stuff is real?
FEHR: You know, the writers have been amazing on this show. They`ve really tried
to make the show as real as dramatically possible. And they went into great
lengths to really research everything that they`ve written before they`ve
FEHR: So, you know, all of the torture scenes that I`ve gone through, everything
that we show, has been done before to someone or other. Look, I feel that my
character deserves everything it gets, but I think it`s also something we should
always ask ourselves.
BECK: Sure, absolutely.
FEHR: You know, are we doing the right thing? Are we not becoming a little bit
of them, doing it that way?
BECK: Yes. Yes. It`s a great conversation to have, and we all should have that
debate in our own head.
One quick, last question. You guys are taking on some serious media issues, and
anybody who points these things out is in danger. Do you guys feel any fear at
all for taking this subject on?
EALY: I think it`s unfortunate that the subject matter is so timely, but I think
the way in which we`re handling the subject matter, with some integrity, with
some dignity, and not just making everything so simple in black and white, I
think that`s what helps the show at the end of the day.
BECK: Good. Thanks, Michael and Oded. Best of luck to you. You can catch the
first episode of the new season on Showtime this Sunday night.